in ohio particularly the obama team has pushed the auto rescue, there are a lot of jobs in ohio that were saved by that, and they see that as one of the reasons he's doing so well. the romney team is pushing energy and they still see a vulnerability with coal, for example, but the polls are showing that the auto issue is helping obama certainly more than this energy issue seems to be helping romney. >> it feels like when we look at the number of things both structurally and in terms of the campaign, a real rhee election for president obama is in certain ways overdetermined by the models. it's not the absolute level of economic suffering, it's where, you know, how people feel about how things are going, it's about things moving in the right direction. you have an incumbent versus someone not a current office holder. there's a lot of things that overdetermine the likelihood of president obama winning re-election. on the other hand, we have very serious voter suppression efforts in key states and i think, you know, this goes back to your point that the obama campaign is certainly not ev